Messy Marv

Originally published: January 2005

So let's start off talkin about this 50 situation. What made you and Guce record this diss and put it out now?

We been on them faggots coatail. When I put out Disobayish I was on them niggas line. Man its just about some faggot ass niggas that got mothafuckas in the industry fooled. Faggot niggas and a snitch that got the industry fooled. It's about some real niggas and its about some gay niggas. Point blank. You know the Mission Rock incident if Guce didn't already inform you on that. The nigga come to Mission Rock in a bulletproof van, or whatever the fuck he was in. Me and the homie go up to the nigga to holla on some real shit, the nigga was on some scary shit. So, the nigga got up outta there. That was one faggot ass thing the nigga did that niggas wasnt feelin. Then the nigga get on TV and dry snitch on a nigga's whole infrastructure. That was another faggot ass thing the gay nigga did. Then, he said "when was the last time bay area put out a hit." The nigga just be doing some subliminal faggot ass shit. Shit on the under, they don't really put it on the frontline, but we tired of that punk ass shit so we putting them niggas out there. Them niggas is gay.

You know, Obie Trice, all them niggas from Shady Records is gay to me man. It's nothing, we putting it out there, it is what it is. Ain't no puttin it out there, it's the yay. What!

Did you record a diss to 50 before this one?

Like I said man, we been put shit out on the line, its just that niggas is just listening to it now. We ain't on that hype that everyone else on, "lets diss these niggas for a record sale." We gonna do our 100,000 regardless. That's nothin. Like I said I been on them niggas line. Niggas is fake as fuck, and thats wassup. Me and Guce just finally bumped heads. Two real niggas from two notorious parts of the city put this shit together. It is what it is.

Supposedly Obie Trice is about to respond to your diss "In Front of the Buildings" on his upcoming album...What do you have to say about that?

Man, I aint gotta say nothing about it. Let the fag ass nigga respond. When I see the nigga in the streets I'mma punch the nigga in the motherfuckin mouth and give him Sean Carters. Respond to that nigga. Faggot ass nigga. Them niggas is gay nigga. Nigga came to my motherfuckin city, got on the radio like, "Frisco showed him love but he had to walk with his ass to the wall like niggas was gonna bust his booty" or somethin. Nigga, I'll put my foot in yo ass though punk. Nigga it is what it is. And I fuck with real Detriot niggas. Niggas like Trick, niggas like the Chedda Boys. Real niggas out there, you understand me. They say you ain't even got a set, you ain't got a block nigga. You a bitch nigga. That's on one, thats on me. It is what it is like I keep sayin. When I see you I'm punchin you right in your gums nigga.

So give us some details on Bullys wit Fullys III. Is it complete?

Man it's completed and done. The Infrastructure. I'm gonna give it to yall raw. I ain't gonna tell yall whos on it, but it's gonna be bigger then life. Like any other thing we do. We representatives of this Bay Area shit. We two of them niggas thats pushin that line. The Infrastructure. It is what it is mayne. It's a defenition within itself, Messy Marv and Guce. Like I said, two real niggas from two notorious hoods from San Francisco bumpin heads. Ohhh! Somebody gonna tell.

So you got "Bandanas Tattoos and Tongue Rings" dropping soon. What's the meaning behind the title?

I dont know man, it could be about Game. Bandanas, Tattoos, and Tongue Rings. I mean, you come up with your own meaning nigga. I just put it out there. It's for the masses to come up with their own meaning.

You got a collab with Dead Prez on there. That's something I didn't expect right there, that combination. How did that come about?

Don't get Mess fucked up, I can get on that political hype too. The Bay Area is the home of the Black Panthers and we black before anything. So I seen 'em, we holla'd it was real. We put it together, Brooklyn and San Francisco. It's one of the hottest tracks on the album. On some black shit. It is what it is. I got Lil Flip on that joint, the Clover G's. I got Suga Free, I got fuckin 40, Yuk, my nigga Guce on there. It's big.

You got any Droop E production on there?

You know I got a Droop E production. I fuck with the Pharmaceuticals. 40 is my nigga. Bay representative. As a matter of fact, he produced the motherfuckin single. Get on my hype. It is what it is.

Going back to The Game mention, did you ever meet dude back when he was workin with JT?

I was on the block grindin dope nigga. He was runnin around in the studio. I was out on the block, grindin, sellin dope, on dope. Nigga, period point blank the nigga touched down. It even wouldn't be this if the nigga give the Bay Area they credit. Just like with the nigga Daz. This nigga come to Fillmore, runnin from Suge, sayin Snoops a bitch and all this. JT put the nigga on, now he back with Snoop. Now this nigga Game come to Fillmoe, "he created his own buzz. Dr. Dre found him," yadda yadda yada. This nigga come to Fillmoe, no tattoo tears no nothin, just that weak ass Game tattoo on his neck nigga. He didn't even know how to do 16 bars nigga! The nigga Ghazi got him in the studio showing him how to rap. Sean T givin him a beat, and JT puttin the nigga on! But it wouldn't even be no diss shit if the nigga would've given back to my set. And these real niggas that put him on. It is what it is. That nigga know the real. These niggas always come to the Bay and wanna sponge off it. Nigga call your next album Sponge. You dry ass niggas wanna come out here and get wet. You hear me! You niggas gonna get wet for real if you niggas keep playin!

Come on man, we ain't them type of niggas to be going around talkin about this shit. So I'm just gonna say what Imma say and thats gonna be the end of it. I aint finna keep dissin a nigga. I ain't even dissin a nigga for no albums. Like I said in the beginning. We gonna do our 100,000 regardless. Times that by ten, I'm independent, you do the math. How many niggas you got in your motherfuckin pocket? Niggas is broke, runnin around got every body fooled like you the hardest! Nigga....man. Come on blood. Ask the next question blood. I'm drivin thinkin about these hoe ass niggas. Before you make me run into a tree or somethin, wassup?


Whats the deal with the second Explosive Mode album with San Quinn? The fans been patiently waiting. Is that still going down?

I don't know that's something you gonna have to ask Quinn. You know how grown men have differences. We just doing our own thing. That's wassup with Messy Marv and San Quinn. Quinn doin Quinn, Marv doin Marv. Mess ain't signing with Blackwallstreet. Mess keeping it Scalen Inc. Yeah thats my mothafuckin cousin though. I'm doin me and he doin him.

Scalen Inc. Speaking of INC....there was word that you were maybe in talks with Irv, and possibly signing to Murder Inc. Or was that just talk that started cause of the song you have with Ashanti?

Man, I fuck with real niggas. Real niggas fuck with real niggas. I ain't finna put it out there like that. But you might see a nigga on a track with Ja on the next album. Then niggas will know. I ain't no faggot ass nigga to be "yeah i fuck with Irv Gotti! I fuck with Suge Knight!" Nah fuck all that, when you niggas see it on the album you niggas will know. Or when you see me in New York eatin with the nigga or somethin you will know. Ya undastand me! It is what it is.

Word is your the newest Regime member.

Regime. What is it! When you say Regime member...I fuck with the Regime, this is a movement. So, I'm coming together with Yuk. Yuk got the Regime, I got the Click Clack, Guce got the Bully's with Fully's. Git Paid Music Group. We all puttin this shit together. Feel me, aint no big me, lil you, no lil you, big me.

So everybody's leaders in this situation.

Everybody's leadin. But yeah Regime Life. What! Click Clack, Bullys Wit Fullys, reppin it.

Have you laid down any tracks with them?

You gonna hear it on Yuk's new mixtape. It'll be out in a minute.

You got any new DVD's in the works?

Yeah the album drops February 15th. Bandanas Tattoos and Tongue Rings. The Diary comes inside the disk. It's an hour and a half long. That's wassup.

Whats your opinion on this whole New Bay movement? What does New Bay mean to you...

It is what it is, New Bay, old Bay, this that. If your reppin what you reppin and you pushin your line, whether your new or whether your old. I don't give a fuck, just stay the fuck away from me. Don't fuck with me. New Bay it, old bay it, I don't give a fuck what you doin. If you ain't with this Bully's wit Fully's/Click Clack movement, stay the fuck away from me homeboy. That's what it is.

What do you think is to blame for this kinda slump that they Bay is in, or as a whole the West.

The Bay ain't never been in no slump homeboy! Like I said, these motherfuckers just come out here and take this shit and run with it. There ain't never been no slump, we the mecca of the game. This where the shit come from. Poppin collas and yadda yadda and fa shizzles, dizzles and all this shit you hear. Them niggas you see on BET, them aint the real niggas mayne. Come to the fuckin Bay you gonna see some real niggas. We ain't never been in no slump nigga. We ain't never been in no bind. We always been...we a industry within our own self. We independent tycoons. We millionaires. We make 10 dollars a disc, you niggas gettin 1 point on a royalty. You do the math nigga. Nigga the bay ain't never been in no twist. Ain't no bind nigga, no slump. We always been on top. Cause we our own niggas. We our own men.

Well of course the Bay will always support itself, but when I said the Bay is in a slump, I mean as far as mainstream love and radio play. You used to have dudes with major deals back in the early 90s. And now everyone's just doing their own thing independent, no majors really picking anyone up.

Like I said, sometimes you gotta take it for what it's worth. Take the bitter with the sweet homeboy. I'mma ride it out regardless. If these majors wanna get on my hype, come fuck with me. That's cool. If they don't, that's cool too. Like I said, I'mma still do my 100,000 regardless. That's ghetto platinum for me homeboy. If a nigga wanna come thug with a nigga though, one of these major labels, thats good. That's something you gotta ask these major labels though. Why they aint came to fuck with a nigga. I don't know. It's gay if you ask me. All they artists say our motherfuckin slang and they got our game but they don't fuck with us. They theives too. Ya hear me! So it is what it is.

Anything else you wanna add before we wrap this up...

Yup. I wanna add, that the G-Unit is gay as fuck. I wanna add that me and Guce is startin this Frisco line so you niggas fall in line and get up under this real Infrastructure. Let us push. If not, we pushin over niggas. I wanna add, one love to my nigga Yuk. Yuk when you see the nigga Game, punch him in his mouth. Get that situated cause I'm ridin forever. I wanna add, biatch!!!!!!!! I'm Rich!!!!!!! Hahahaha!!!! That's what I wanna add. Guce, lets go get this money, Westcoast. Ay! It is what it is. Quote that. Yeah! I wanna add, www.scaleninc.com and get your fix!